Q: Hi Susan:
I read your article at Glenbrook farms on healthy bones and did some research on the herbs you use for the infusions. I wanted to incorporate the infusions into my lifestyle to help my bones during postmenopausal years.
I have experienced breast cancer twice, 2006 being the most recent. hormone receptor positive. I have 4 years remaining on Femera (a chemotherpy drug) Two bone density test 2005 and 2007 are below the normal I guess for women my age. I have become leary of these finding and the doctors recommendations. Both maternal and paternal women in my history have experienced deminished bone density, but nothing severe. Otherwise I feel I am and active, healthy 56 year old who wants to take care of my bones without the depressing side effects of prescribed meds.
Can you tell me if the oatstraw, nettle. red clove, or comfrey leaf infusions (each seperately) are ok to take? Also can you comment on this information I found at an herb site I frequent and shop at on occasion?
Mountain Rose HerbsComfrey Leaves
Precautions"Not recommended for internal use. Not to be used while pregnant. Not to be applied to broken or abraided skin.
"Comfrey was widely used and recommended until the mid-1980s, when reports began to surface about the possibility of liver damage from the pyrrolizidine alkaloids that some plants contain. In 2001, the FTC and FDA combined to issue an injunction against products containing comfrey that were meant for internal use.
"This view has been countered by herbalists, who state that common comfrey, the plant most often used for medicinal purposes, contains only negligible amounts of those alkaloids. In fact, one laboratory study of three different sources of comfrey found no pyrrolizidine in one sample, and only negligible amounts in the other two. Still, many herbalists recommend that comfrey preparations should not be taken internally because of the possibility of liver disease and damage. Comfrey should also not be used by pregnant or nursing women."
Thank you in advance for your expertise,
A: So wonderful you wish to drink herbal infusions. All the herbs you mention are like nourishing foods to me, so I see no reason for concern. I understand the debate about Comfrey, so would do best to refer you to a thread at our forum where the debate has been shared by some, for various viewpoints on it: Comfrey - internally - safe? - help me research?! As well, since you ask of Susun (she does not have internet to be able to correspond through email), here is a bit she has written:
Herbal Allies for Pregnancy Problems
Some people feel that Comfrey is not safe to use during pregnancy. Some people feel comfrey is not safe to use internally at all. I disagree. The roots of comfrey do contain compounds that are best avoided during pregnancy. (As do all parts of the wild plant.) In fact, I rarely use comfrey root because of the possibility of liver congestion, and I strongly caution those who have had hepatitis, chemotherapy, or alcohol problems to strictly avoid comfrey root. Yet even these people can benefit from use of comfrey leaf infusions. I harvest the flowering stalks when they are fully formed; and I am careful to use the cultivated garden comfrey, which grows very tall and has purplish, pinkish, bluish flowers. I avoid wild comfrey which stays rather small, even when flowering, and has cream-colored, white, or yellowish flowers.
Natural Remedies for Breastfeeding Concerns
~ Comfrey roots (Symphytum uplandica x) contain the same liver-damaging compounds sometimes found in borage. But comfrey leaves do not.
...an Interview with Susun Weed...
And then the last one is an herb that I have used very consistently for more than a quarter of a century, and that’s Comfrey Leaf. And you may be surprised by that because if you’ve heard anything at all about herbs in the past couple of years you may have heard some warnings about Comfrey. What my studies show me is that those warnings are true about comfrey root and I don’t use the root of the Comfrey. But the leaf, so far as I can tell is absolutely benign. As a matter of fact there was a man named Henry Doubleday who worked very hard all of his life to create courses of Comfrey that would be completely safe to eat. And he set up a Henry Doubleday Research Center in England where there’s a group of people there who have been eating Comfrey as a cooked green for three generations now, through pregnancies, lactations and no harm to anyone.
Natural Health and Healing in the Wise Woman Tradition
Like the women she has long been associated with, comfrey has a mixed reputation. I use lots of comfrey leaf, brewed as a strong infusion (put one ounce dry herb in a quart jar, add boiling water to top, cap tightly, steep overnight); but I rarely use comfrey root -- if for no other reason than that comfrey will colonize the garden if her roots are disturbed. The healing agents in comfrey are concentrated in the petiole, or leaf stalk, and the flower stalk. Cultivated comfrey has sterile flowers, so I harvest while it's flowering, cutting leaf and flower stalks near the ground and hanging them individually in a dark, well-ventilated place to dry.
Healthy Menopausal Years the Wise Woman Way
Comfrey (Symphytum) leaf is free of the compounds (PAs) found in the root that can damage the liver. I have used comfrey leaf infusion regularly for decades with no liver problems, ditto for the group of people at the Henry Doubleday Research Foundation who have eaten cooked comfrey leaves as a vegetable for four generations.
Minerals Make the Difference
Comfrey (Symphytum uplandicum x) is controversial. Ingestion of its roots can cause severe liver congestion. The leaves are safe, though labeled otherwise.
Here are two resources Susun lists in New Menopausal Years the Wise Woman Way:
"The Comfrey Controversey." Journal of the Northeast Herbalists Association. Winter, 1994
Awang, D.V.C. "Comfrey." Canadian Pharm Journal. 101-4, 1987
I actually commend Mountain Rose. By law, they are required to state that warning. In addition they have added the voice of many who think differently about plants than does the FDA, "This view has been countered by herbalists, who state that common comfrey, the plant most often used for medicinal purposes, contains only negligible amounts of those alkaloids. In fact, one laboratory study of three different sources of comfrey found no pyrrolizidine in one sample, and only negligible amounts in the other two."
I personally enjoy comfrey leaf infusions and have shared them with my son since he started drinking other than milk. I also take anything in moderation.
Please let me know if I can help further.
Love and Blessings,
Karen Joy
wisewoman@herbshealing.com
www.wisewomanweb.com

HI, i have been searching about comfrey some time ago, but i have some doubts with the varieties, the one i have seen here in Colombia South america is one that does not have flowers, do you wich variety is it??
thanks!
Posted by: Angela | September 02, 2008 at 06:52 PM
Anglea, I do not know of any Comfrey without flowers. Perhaps they have not flowered yet? Are you sure it is the Comfrey we speak of, Symphytum species?
Karen Joy
Posted by: Karen Joy | September 05, 2008 at 05:14 AM
I live Hawaii and we also have Comfrey that I have never seen grow flowers. I personally witnessed healing with this kind. I helped someone that broke their bone in two places on their leg. The bone was sticking out about an inch on two broke places. One of the brakes happened 3 years prior to the second one. They both were on the inside of the ankle area. The doctor had seen the first one and told my friend that it will heal in 3 years. That third year it was the same, an inch sticking out, and my friend fell off a ledge and broke the other brake. That's when I helped him.
We drank a gallon a day(together) of the comfrey leaf prepared from fresh. I made poultices for him and put in his bath. In two weeks both of the brakes healed. It was like a miracle! The nickname for comfrey (knitbone) holds true. It literally knitted his bones back in.
Our minds are very powerful,and believing in something will also help make it happen, whether it's good or bad.
I also would like to note that I drank comfrey leaf tea while I was pregnant and breast feeding. I have 5 children and the oldest is 20 and youngest is 2 1/2, All are healthy as ever!
Posted by: Ivy | May 31, 2009 at 01:43 PM
Ivy so wonderful your experiences with Comfrey! If you get pictures of this that you worked with with no flowers I would love to see, I am so curious!
Karen Joy
Posted by: KarenJoy | June 01, 2009 at 10:37 AM
I am having comfrey seeds being sent to me that I purchased online, therefore I must assume that it is symphytum officianalis since symphytum uplandica does not set seed. Is this correct?
Thank you in advance,
Liz
Posted by: Liz | July 16, 2010 at 06:01 PM
Hi Liz,
Yes, most likely officianalis. Would look for the actual plant and there are some online sources as well if you cannot find locally.
Posted by: Wise Woman Team | July 20, 2010 at 07:21 AM
Greetings,
I have a broken foot that has been slow to heal. I was told to make a tea of comfrey root, which I have done, steeping it overnight then pouring it into a quart jar with ginger and a little honey. I've been doing this and drinking the tea for about three weeks now. I'm told I should drink it for four months. Now, I don't know. I'd hate to heal my foot at the expense of my foot!
Robyn
Posted by: Robyn Yellow | August 23, 2010 at 05:10 PM
Hi Robyn,
I would make an infusion from the dried comfrey leaf as opposed to the root. If you are using comfrey leaf from the hybrid symphytum uplandica rather than wild comfrey, many of us feel it is safe for your liver. If you have fresh comfrey available, you can also make a poultice with the leaves to wrap around your foot as well.
thanks,
Kim
Wise Woman Team
Posted by: Kim | August 27, 2010 at 05:14 AM
HI. I'am a 56 year old woman with osteoporosis, and i need help. I have taken joint soothers like glucosamine, chondroitin, and msm combind, and now I'am taking a herb calcium formual with comfrey leaves, oat straw, horsetail,and red rasberry leaves combind, and want to know if this combindation will help or can i take them both together? also is there a herb that will help your hair grow, I loss my hair and looking for something natural to help it start back to growing.
Posted by: Annette | March 26, 2011 at 12:28 PM
Good day,
I have confry in my garden. Can I make a a tea of the leaves and will it be save to drink. How must I make the tea?
Thank you
Ina le Grange
Posted by: INA LE GRANGE | September 30, 2011 at 01:59 AM